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Old May 15, 2006, 12:50 AM // 00:50   #21
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I respect the ones that cant be farmed (such as the protector ones and elite skill hunter). Being able to spend alot of money or farm a title doesnt show that you understand the game/work hard it it. It just means you can repeat the same area over and over again.
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Old May 15, 2006, 01:06 AM // 01:06   #22
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I think the Gladiator ones should be for Random Arena only. I would be most impressed with that one.
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Old May 15, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41   #23
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"friend of" title, because it should show dedication to your alliance. But, I'm proud of my survivor title, because i succeeded at pve without death, and.... didn't bail out once!
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Old May 15, 2006, 01:49 AM // 01:49   #24
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I think the Gladiator ones should be for Random Arena only. I would be most impressed with that one.
Thats what I thought it was..wrong as usual. >.<

But does that just include TA then? Because RA is much easier...of course I don't do TA so..thats largely unfounded. (2/25 with RA. )

Anyway..as was said a couple times, the skill hunter title definatly deserves some respect. I could never be bothered just to take the time to do that, not even including the skill factor.
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Old May 15, 2006, 01:51 AM // 01:51   #25
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I wouldn't be that impressed by a skill hunter title, since it's only about capping elites, and you know that many players looking for this title cap elites without purchasing the normal skills for the secondaries. ANET should have made a title based on the number of skills you have, elite or not, IMO, not on elites only.

Drunkard is my favorite - just because i'm proud to have it - well also and mainly because it shows the dude is crazy enough to spend more than 200k on ale and still can play with a psychedelic screen. Incorrigible Ale Hound is a must.

Otherwise, I'm of course impressed by the high PvP titles, which doesnt mean I pick someone with them because of them for a PvE group.
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Old May 15, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57   #26
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It's hard to get all elites because it's not by account right? So why would my Warrior want Thunderclap?
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Old May 15, 2006, 01:57 AM // 01:57   #27
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As someone working on Grandmaster Cartographer, I'm more and more impressed with them for their perseverance, as I've experienced some of it firsthand.
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Old May 15, 2006, 02:07 AM // 02:07   #28
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I wouldn't be that impressed by a skill hunter title, since it's only about capping elites, and you know that many players looking for this title cap elites without purchasing the normal skills for the secondaries. ANET should have made a title based on the number of skills you have, elite or not, IMO, not on elites only.
That would be interesting, however by making it elites only it doesn't force you to farm millions of experience to buy every skill for every profession. Although personally, I am getting them all.

The "Friend of" at first I thought would take a lot of dedication and some time to get. But since it can be farmed with 2 skills alone, albeit it would take a while, it's depressing to think that some might get it that way. The same with Wisdom Track and Treasure Hunter, which are based on how wealthy you are basically. Rare skinned equipment and FoW armour already showed how much gold you had.

Cartographer... well, no way to exploit it really since anyone can change secondaries and grab some running skills. Although I wish it were possible for a character born from either chapter to get it.

Drunkard... no comment.

The protector's of, especially Cantha even though there are fewer missions. You can easily do every bonus in Chapter 1 with ease (maybe not Ring of Fire) with the henchmen. Although I personally haven't tried for Master in all of the Cantha missions, I imagine getting it with just henchmen would be near impossible. As such, it would require some level of teamwork to complete that task. Protector of Cantha would definately be up there for me.
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Old May 15, 2006, 02:08 AM // 02:08   #29
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Oh yes, getting all the elites is great: I recognize that. I just want to point at the fact that for most of the players who have this title, they didnt cap the elite because, maybe, one day, they could have the use of them. They capped them to get the title.

I've been buying skill on my main char as much as I could. Still, I'm far away from the elite capping title (which is not a big deal at all). But I have hundreds of skills unlocked. I unlocked them to use them, maybe. But I've capped the divine favor elites and my ranger for exemple because I wanted to be done with all the monks skills. Of course, it was pointless: I'll never use them (note: it was even before anet implant titles). What I mean is that this title could be a reward for the players who have purchased/aquired many skill in order to try no builds etc. But as it's only about capping elites atm, that's encouraging for most of the players, IMO, to do aquire skills with no purpose.

It's not against players seeking this title. Doing this with no purpose other than getting a title is good too (see the drunkard title for ex), and also some players will try to get all the elites just because they have unlocked all the normal skills, and for them I clap loudly.

I just mean that having this title doesn't mean the dude is a "skill expert" as it could be.

EDIT - However, yeah Racthoh, you have a point.

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Old May 15, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50   #30
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Third tier gladiator. I dont care who you are...that takes skill. The rest are just farming (even fame...you could have gotten it 1 fame at a time....but gladiator requires 10 win streaks.)
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Old May 15, 2006, 02:52 AM // 02:52   #31
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The Rank-based Titles are by far the hardest and most time-consuming to achieve, therefore they will always command the most respect from good players.
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Old May 15, 2006, 03:08 AM // 03:08   #32
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Gladiator title is what I hold the highest respect for. After that Rank. Most of the PvE titles mean nothing to me otherwise as they are gold based, or can be done easily with a good group. Well ok mapping is not one, but that does not mean someone is a good player just because they can run around the map.
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Old May 15, 2006, 03:19 AM // 03:19   #33
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Prophecies dunno if they even can get survivor cause according to Wiki your deathcount has to show 0
Yeah, new ones can get it. My necro is working on it. However, it's not a title I'd really respect. Someone who died once the whole game, but died during that initial period, won't have the title. Someone who died 2000 times after getting their title will. So survivor is pretty meaningless. Add to that all those people who'll be run through quests and missions so they don't risk their own behinds, and it becomes a complete joke.

The skill hunter title would be a tough one--I guess you'ld have to keep changing your secondary to cap that many, something I'll never do.

Protector of Tyria is a good one, though again, people can be run through every mission or bonus (meaning either literally run, or just stay at the beginning while everyone else fights). I have no respect for the Protector of Cantha title because timed bonuses don't belong in PvE. It just means someone can rush. Who cares?

I respect the cartographer titles.
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Old May 15, 2006, 04:14 AM // 04:14   #34
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If you have capped 90 elites, you've won a LOT of PvE fights against tough competition.

Doing it with henchies or whatever would actually be a greater proof of skill than doing it in groups of real players.

I'm tempted to go for that one, actually, although I only have 27-28 each current elites and spare skill points at the moment, and am shifting my focus to another character anyway.

On the other hand, that lack of skill points reflects having done only one Canthan mission, and done it with only one sword, so there are a lot of "quick" skill points still available at least in theory ... especially since capping an elite now gets you a lot of skill itself.
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Old May 15, 2006, 04:19 AM // 04:19   #35
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Definately the pvp rank titles, apart from when they are on a W/R.
The Drunkard title also demands respect.
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Old May 15, 2006, 05:01 AM // 05:01   #36
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Never the rank ones. I respect everything except rank and the lower level ranks of the map titles.
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Old May 15, 2006, 05:12 AM // 05:12   #37
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I respect the ones who have the modesty to turn all titles off. But among the ones that do show titles, I respect Gladiator and higher, Conquering Hero and higher, and the Protector titles. I would respect Champion, but I think achieving that sets you on a different level of the game, far above mere players, where titles no longer have any meaning.
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Old May 15, 2006, 05:13 AM // 05:13   #38
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Definatly skill hunter because it can be the most time consumeing and cost the most gold. 1k a skill is not cheap.

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Old May 15, 2006, 05:14 AM // 05:14   #39
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2nd Drunkard level title. 7 days of Drunkness, ~2million gold.

I would be impressed with this title because I feel sorry for peple with no life.
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Old May 15, 2006, 05:20 AM // 05:20   #40
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I respect the ones that cant be farmed (such as the protector ones and elite skill hunter). Being able to spend alot of money or farm a title doesnt show that you understand the game/work hard it it. It just means you can repeat the same area over and over again.
Dunno.. elite skill hunter shows dedication, but... if you think doing the same mission 6x requires skill... so be it Currently working on that title, and remembering that doing the same mission/area again and again and again equates to as much fun as farming.

As for not having all skills but rather all elites, once you have all elites you can always buy the other skills to run whatever build. Why did I have 89 elites in Tyria previous to the title? I was bored and went on a cappin spree. Was only after the title update that I realised I had one missing. Things like unyielding and spell breaker are pretty much worthless on anything but a monk, so.. the only reason to cap it with something other than a monk would be to unlock it for pvp purposes.

The title I respect the most is the 100% explored title of either Cantha or Tyria. It shows dedication, even with henchies, it's still more dedication than I have.
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